I was in my car (A 2000 Honda Civic) at lunch listening to the radio. The talk show host was asking what is wrong with GM, and what can be done to improve their situation. He’s talking about unions, and healthcare costs, and all kinds of things. Never once did he mention the poor quality of the car. He talked about the employee discount sale, and happy customers, etc. He mentioned he bought a GM car. Fine. GM cars work great when you buy them new. What about 10 years down the road? They don’t last! It is one thing for the talk show host who probably buys a new car (probably at a discount because he promotes them), and trades it in every couple years for a new one. But for me and people like me who buy a car and expect it to last for years, GM cars are horrible! My last Honda was a 1990 Accord. I bought it with about 40000 miles on it, and at about 235000 miles it fried it’s valves. (And the reason it fried it’s valves I am pretty sure traces back to another mechanic who didn’t replace my water pump when I had my timing belt replaced which caused my car to overheat when the water pump blew a month later) After my mechanic told me the engine was most likely toast and telling me what it would cost to replace the engine, I traded the car and $2000 to him for a 1992 Chevy Lumina with only 100000 miles on it. Over the one year I had it I put money into it fixing this or that, until after about a year, the thing blew a head gasket! And I maintain my cars with regular oil changes etc. My wife had a 1989 Pontiac Sunbird also with relativly low milage, and that thing also blew a head gasket. What happened to the 1990 Honda Accord? The mechanic dropped a used engine into it, and it went back out onto the road. I donated the pieces of crap Lumina and Sunbird to a charity via the local junkyard! We ended up buying a couple 2000 Honda Civics which we plan to own for a bunch of years. My mechanic told me that the newer Hondas (like mine), have engines that will last for about a half million miles. He also told me that Honda’s from the era of my 1990 Accord had engines that didn’t last a long time. I’ll take 235000 miles. Thats way more than I have gotten from an American car! Honda cars last, GM cars don’t!

I agree!!! At 100k a GM car or truck is ready for a major breakdown. At 100k a Honda is ready for another 100k. GM needs to wake up and take a look in the mirror and fix things or it will be only talked about in history books.
Comment by Lewis Gossett — December 4, 2005 @ 5:44 pm
By the way, I own a late model GM truck and SUV. I have formed my opinion from ownership.
Comment by Lewis Gossett — December 4, 2005 @ 5:49 pm
My Sunbird is 15 yrs old (1991), over 425000 kms, and still going strong. I’ve seen jap cars break down much earlier. As long as i’m concerned, GM cars DO last !! some folks just don’t know how to take care of them.
Comment by GM is good. — January 6, 2006 @ 12:06 am
oh and by the way, whoever sez GM cars don’t last has been “brain-washed” by jap propeganda ! go buy some miniature plastic pets and stuffed bears and put them in your import..as far as i’m concerned. YOU SUK !!
Comment by GM is good. — January 6, 2006 @ 12:09 am
I cant beleive how people take responsibility for their pampered jap cars breaking down but when its american its a different story. Fact jap cars are built out of fly paper.Fact jap styling is bland.Fact a 2002 SS Camaro is an icon that will be worth more in the future than anything that the japs have to offer .Fact american trucks are built better then japs & get similar mpg.Fact the Fast & The Furious should be called the Slow & The Stupid !!!!
Comment by Mike Calvitto — January 10, 2006 @ 8:57 pm
i have owned gm cars and trucks for 12 years and also worked on them for a livining. the one thing i have learned is that almost ANY car that is not well maintaned will not last.buying a used car is risky because you DO NOT know the care it has been given,so two used cars of bad luck dosent mean anything
Comment by devin grider — January 17, 2006 @ 10:01 pm
I have had a cavilier but the braking on it sucked….it took a long time for it to brake compared to my new honda…
also the gm cars are more clunky going down the road… i had a 91 mazda and the handling on it was excellent…
Comment by honda owner — January 24, 2006 @ 8:06 am
I don’t buy american cars because I think they’re made in large part by dumb “good ol’ boys”. My brother bought a Ford Ranger. When he showed it off to me, it had a flashlight laying in the engine, and a beercan inside the door (behind the trim). He was embarrassed.
I use to install computers at american car dealerships, and frankly the mechanics scare me. I would not take a bicycle to them to fix. I’ve owned 7 Honda’s in my lifetime and the mechanics were all very professional.
Finally, I think detroits problem is with the union. The union is driving out all the jobs in our country. They’ve been slowly moving to Mexico already and Pretty soon the Japanese will be the only remaining builders of cars in the United States. I use to feel a little guilty about buying Japanese cars, but not since they’ve started employing american workers.
Comment by Trekker4Life — January 26, 2006 @ 2:24 pm
Let’s be fair here. Even though I have a Honda Accord it’s not fair to say GM cars suck. That 1970 Camaro is a good running car!!! LOL!!!!!
Comment by el-dog — March 26, 2006 @ 7:45 am
Gm models cars only suck to those who are incapable of maintaining such a car. I have two Cadillac Eldorado Biarritz’s in pristine condition and factory original
and I get loads of compliments
That’s why Hondas have the highest theft rate is because cars like that are expendable and will never see the likes of classic status. Damn gear heads
Comment by Billy Allen — April 17, 2006 @ 9:09 am
why do pepole talk crap about G.M. i have worked on every thing you can name. the chepest thing i have ever fixed is always the G.M. cars and trucks.The only thing i will ever drive is a G.M truck or car.that is because i always work on my own G.M car and my 2 G.M trucks.you try working on forin job they are hard to work on and expensive!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! tust me
Comment by frank bunning — June 2, 2006 @ 9:47 pm
G.M. cars don’t last.The knuckle dragers that put them together are smart like cavemen.Toyota rules.Chrysler is worse.They use prostitutes to keep the workers happy.Crack,too!!
Comment by Joey Sap — June 1, 2009 @ 9:02 pm
Why again??????
Comment by Bill Callahan — June 18, 2009 @ 3:47 am
Something just has to be said about the following quote from “honda owner”:
“I don’t buy american cars because I think they’re made in large part by dumb “good ol’ boys”. My brother bought a Ford Ranger. When he showed it off to me, it had a flashlight laying in the engine, and a beercan inside the door (behind the trim). He was embarrassed.”
This is perhaps the stupidest, most un-thought-out statement I have ever heard! You, Honda Owner, are a stupid dumbass. Your statement sounds like it was fabricated by a 12-year old who just got high for the first time. I seriously cannot believe that you are capable of operating a computer, let alone a motor vehicle. Frankly, I think ha just made this crap up!
American autoworkers are some of the hardest working people on the planet, moron. They aren’t just good ole boys, as you say. We come from all backgrounds and all walks of life. Just because we’re from the Midwest and not from New York or California, or whatever yuppie/liberal city you come from doesn’t make you ANY BETTER THAN US! Do you understand that concept, genius? We are people just like you, go to work in the morning like you, have families and houses just like you… However, unlike you, we are proud of our country and the goods that we produce.
I am 26 years old and have owned or still own a 1968 Pontiac Lemans, 1993 Mercury Tracer LTS, 1994 Plymouth Acclaim, 1996 Ford Explorer, 1997 Ford Taurus, 1999 Olds Alero and a 2004 Pontiac GTO and have had minimal problems with all of them. In fact, my 1996 Explorer with 163,000 miles is still on the original transmission and, *gasp*, the original engine. How many radiators, timing belts and water pumps would a Civic go through by that point? My 99 Olds Alero had 150K when I sold it. My 04 GTO’ll stomp whatever Honda challenges it and still gets 25 mpg AND is an absolute pleasure to drive.
The next time you have a weekend off, why don’t you take a trip to Flint, Detroit, Cleveland or Lansing and see just what kind of people actually build American cars. Try talking to a few of them. Maybe then you’ll understand exactly why people like me dislike Jap cars, people who preach about how great Jap cars are, and most important, people who bitch about how terrible our country and our products are.
Don’t make me lay into the V6 Accords, Acuras and Odysseys with their catastrophic 20k transmission failures, rotten out radiators and EGR issues. Or how about your precious Civics terrible build quality, defective exhaust work and cooling system problems. How about the rust-prone Mitsubishi EVO with its premature engine failures?
Seriously… all of you out there that had a 1983 Chevy Citation or 86 Dodge Aries and therefore think that all Domestics are junk need to re-evaluate your situation and take a new Ford Fusion Sport or Pontiac G8 for a test drive and see that the field had leveled off. In the meantime, try to refrain from making remarks as ignorant and as stupid as the one this jackass made! American born, American built, American bought: The way it should be.
Comment by 6spdGTO — June 26, 2009 @ 9:17 am
“In fact, my 1996 Explorer with 163,000 miles is still on the original transmission and, *gasp*, the original engine. How many radiators, timing belts and water pumps would a Civic go through by that point? My 99 Olds Alero had 150K when I sold it. My 04 GTO’ll stomp whatever Honda challenges it and still gets 25 mpg AND is an absolute pleasure to drive. ”
My 2000 Civic has 154k on it. Still original engine, radiator, tranny, etc. I had the timing belt/water pump replaced at 90k as scheduled service. It would probably still be running fine though. I have been told that even if the timing belt failed on my Honda, the engine wouldn’t be damaged.
Any Honda that challenges it? Hmmm….Okay, how about this challenge. Best gas mileage. My best recorded tanks have been around 45mpg. Can you even come close?
And I have no plans to stop driving my Civic. I plan to drive it 400k+ if I can. I have been told these new Honda’s will get about 500k on the engines.
Comment by Rob — June 29, 2009 @ 4:29 pm
My 2002 honda civic has 160000 miles, ask me why so many miles because my husbands 2002 dodge ram is such a gas guzzler my car is the one being used all the time. His truck has 60,000 miles and has required at least twice a year major repairs add couple thousand a year to cost of owning the dodge. Where nothing on my civic except cost of regular maintence and just recently new brake pads. ilove my honda and he can’t wait to trade the piece of crap dodge in on another Honda.
Comment by angela apt — August 1, 2009 @ 1:19 am
Check the price of Civics vs Cavaliers(or whatever they are calling them now), Accords vs Malibus, etc. You will see which car holds value, and I can wager why that is. I have owned all domestic vehicles since I was 16(too cheap to buy foreign, paid for it 3x over in repairs). Olds, Ford, and worst of all, GM. All had regular maitainence.
Comment by Keith H — September 26, 2009 @ 12:16 pm
GM does suck. If people read consumer reports they have been bad for over 20 years. I had a 1988 Trans-Am that broke down constantly. I take my car in for service and oil changes regularly. I now own a BMW and never have problems. GM The company that built the x-cars, Corvair and Fiero. All Genuine GM JUNK!! Worse of all the company knew the cars were defective and still built them. Very Smart America! Wait and see GM go under in a few years. Its their own fault. Look in the mirror US auto makers you do not stack up.
Comment by David B. — October 25, 2009 @ 9:41 am
GM THE LEMONMAKER ! IVE BEEN NOTICING THE GM TACTIC…. POSTS APPEAR AS A MECHANIC STATING THAT GM HAS LESS ISSUES THAN ANYOTHER AUTOMAKER & HES WORKED HERE & THERE & WE SHOULD BE PATRIOTIC….. GM YOUR THIEVING & YOUR DEXCOOL CLASSACTION THAT YOU DONT HONOR IS A PATHETIC EXAMPLE OF ANY BUSINESS ! GM JUST GO AWAY ! IM TIRED OF SEEING HARDWORKING PEOPLE GET RIPPED OFF !
Comment by GM GROWS LEMONS — December 10, 2009 @ 7:03 am
HEY MR.WAGONEER YOU STEPPED DOWN & LEFT A DIRTY LEGACY OF MILLIONS UPON MILLIONS OF PEOPLE THAT TRUSTED THE COMPANY YOU RAN… HOW DID YOU DO QUALITY CONTROL? LIKE THE VEGA ? RELIABLE REPORTS SAY IT FELL APART AT MILE 8… OR WAS IT THE CORVAIR ? THAT WAS THE BEGINING OF THE CRAP THAT I SAW AS A KID. I KNEW BETTER THEN. I NEVER BOUGHT 1 OF YOUR LEMONS, THOUGH OTHERS TOUTED HOW THEY WERE tAsTee, MY TASTE WAS A LITTLE{ALOT} DIFFERENT. I DIDNT WANT TO EAT 1 GET SICK & HAVE IT COST ME $$$$ . BUT YOU ACCOMPLISHED MUCH… YOU FOOLED AMERICA & APPARENTLY ARE STILL AT YOUR OLD TRICKS WITH YOUR LEMON COMMERCIALS WITH POPULAR FRIENDLY LOOKING FACES…LOOKS TO ME THAT GM RELIES ON 1 THING. THEIRS A SUCKER BORN EVERYDAY OR A FOOL AND HIS /HER MONEY ARE SOON PARTED. YOU DEFINETLY GROW GREAT LEMONS & I NOTICED FROM YOUR OWN WEBSITE THAT YOU HAVE BEEN GROWING THEM IN MEXICO SINCE 1935. I LIKE THAT LITTLE TOUCH ON YOUR PLACARDS ! ENGINEERED IN THE U.S.A.” aSsEmBlEd iN mExIco. Wow ! SEE DEXCOOL CLASSACTION SUIT & THEN DECIDE IF YOU DESERVE THE TROUBLES THAT MILLIONS UPON MILLIONS ARE HAVING. GM YOU ARE TRULY THE GREATEST LEMON GROWER EVER.
Comment by GM GROWS LEMONS — December 10, 2009 @ 7:24 am
DOUBTS ABOUT GM ? GOOGLE GM RECALLS & SPEND A MOMENT OR HOURS…. LOOKING AT A MASSIVE RECALL LIST COVERING MODEL, I MEAN LEMON AFTER LEMON. GM IS VERY DIFFERENT THAN AN EVERYDAY LEMONMAKER. THEY MAKE THE BEST LEMONS !
Comment by GM GROWS LEMONS — December 10, 2009 @ 7:32 am
Some of you on here want to talk about how great gm is, well explain to me about the 2003 grand am gt. This thing is a pile of junk. The clips that hold the windows and move them up and down break constantly, cheap plastic crap, I could make something better in my garage. The radio is a pile of crap, the air conditioning selector switch broke off, the valve cover gasket leakes oil. Just poor quality all around. I have nothing against American cars and nothing against the unions that put them together, its not the peoples fault, its the cheap shitty products that they are given to install on these cars. This partical Grand Am just turned 70,000 miles, absolutely ridiculous having these problems with that little miles on it. JUNK.
Comment by Derek — December 27, 2009 @ 12:24 pm
The Recession has exposed and undone these mega corporations. The episode of GM cars is the underbelly.
Comment by Xscad — January 2, 2010 @ 8:48 am
My 2003 GM Safari is a basket case with 61,000 miles on it. ALL brakes calipers. rotors, pads have been replaced TWICE, (1500.00+) brake line replaced (1) 400.00+ Gas tank expansion valve gone, 495.00, door handles on rear broken, and more. What a piece of crap. This is why GM SHOULD go out of business. They pay their workers more than enough to maqke crap, and expect people to keep buying this s*&^%? NVEVER again, I’l buy a Toyota again like I should have. I have a Tacoma with 133,000 on it and its good for another 100,000. America needs to dump this company quick.
Comment by phil dimor — January 6, 2010 @ 7:08 pm
Finally bought a Toyota Camry! I was a believer in G.M. all my life (I am 54). They used to make good products, but the last 2 brand new cars that I had of theirs were total garbage. We take excellent care of our cars and both the Cutlass and Cutlass Ciera that I owned crapped out before they had 60,000 miles on them. Also, I have a $2,000.00 rebate on a new G.M. car and I bought the Camry instead. Until they clean up their act (maybe it is too late even), I will not buy their products.
Comment by Jane — January 20, 2010 @ 2:32 pm
GM does suck. I have a 2003 impala that was the first american car i’ve had and i bought new. They just aren’t built to last without high maintenance costs. I had a key ignition issue last month – $600 bucks. This month – intake manifold issue – $700 bucks. When i explained it to mechanic, he was like, “oh yeah I know what it is, we replace alot of those on chevys and cadillacs.” I was thinking about getting a cadillac as next car, but they can forget it! Only way would be if it was with a lifetime warranty!
Comment by Jay — January 20, 2010 @ 9:33 pm
I have a 2002 Saturn SL1. Granted it’s probably the worst make of GM ever, but this is the reason why I will buy only Japanese and European cars (when I can afford them) from now on.
It only has 76,000 miles and already has major engine troubles. I kind of had it coming when I saw that the redline is 5,500 RPM compared to everyone else (6,000-6,500 RPM at least).
Comment by David — March 9, 2010 @ 10:02 pm
Bill Callahan shut up!!! no one cares how STUPID you are and your “JUNK” GM car collection. IF you would follow what everyone’s saying, we’re talking about how GM is screwing everyone for years. I’m not wanting to bail out anyone who fucks me over. GM keep your shit and sell it to dumb shits like Bill Callahan. I’ll keep my one reliable honda and Callahan you can have 20 GMs to keep your dumb ass going
Comment by Kay — April 26, 2010 @ 12:03 am
DEREK, all the things u listed as sucking minus the valve cover gasket, were probably made in japan. did u ever consider that? maybe gm would be better if they would stop buying there shit and making agreements with foreign car companies.
Comment by perry — July 18, 2010 @ 2:20 pm
You Engineers Still Just Don’t Get It. I have a 1999 Oldsmobile which I purchased 10 years ago, with cloth seats, I prefer cloth, looking for a new car though mine is working fine with only one overheated engine replacement at 110000 miles, I found the SEAT, you know the thing you sit on to move
place to place, it used to be called a wagon or chariot buggy buckboard ect. but the delux models had a cushion to set on, it seams to me this being the case Impala, I mean thousands of years now of seat building in vehicles, you would at least get a decent set, I mean come on $25000.00 what happend to the soft confortable cloth bench with room in the middle to place my whatknots, and the Passanger seat, Why cant the Passanger expect a powered reclining Cloth seat to be available that is not hot from the sun and cold from setting in the parking lot all day insted of Leather? Most new vehicles are jacked up to get the rear drive gears under the shortened wheelbase you cant see out the back to back it up. Impala is not one of them, and is a beautyful car but the seats are an insult, hard cheap, unpadded. No power recline or adjustment on the driver seat at all, If this doesn,t cause hip and back problems, I,ll be supprised. I think they should be taken off the market. All this technology and nice stuff to work with and you put in buckboard seats. “Really” your engenering is not that much. !!!!! . Thank You, Harry
Comment by Harry Newman — August 2, 2010 @ 12:24 am
Me gots myself a GM Truck. I like Budweiser and Hooter Girls. I gots myself a 3rd Grader Education. I works Hard at the Truck Plant in Detroit. I’s a Hard Workin American Foot Soilder at Detroit Plant.
THem Asians cars and fancy European cars ..them NO GOOD. Too much electronic giggy gamagets…. Mes gots a HeadAche….
Me is satisfied with Block Head Camaro… BIG, FUN, and SIMPLE… oh FAST… not Technological…..
guys… bottom line… any educated person would take an asian or european car over a crap american. i worked at the bwm research center in munich and believe me, i made plenty of tours to detroit and we laugh at what goes on in the auto industry there… there is absolutely no comparison between the asian and european auto technology… i won’t get into it, it’s my job…
just pick up any “reputable” car magazine and become enlightened…
one point: the polymers that the american auto industry uses for their cars are of such a low quality that it is not even considered in asia or europe. it is equivalent to the airplane model kits that – you know – you used to play with as a kid…
next time you sit in a mercedes, touch the dashboard… compare it with a pontiac… or cadilac….
big difference….
don’t waste you money on an american crap car… period
Comment by Billy Ray Cirus — August 12, 2010 @ 3:17 am
The problem is that a vehicle is probably the second most expensive thing that most people ever buy and when you bash their chosen brand they take offense on a personal level. that being said, I am also for the American workers but there were cases of people that were completely unskilled and uneducated making over $100K and thinking they deserved it(That figure comes from a newscast about a shooting at an auto plant in Ca years ago)Couple that with the free trade agreement and it truly spelled disaster for the American auto workers. I do agree with the poor quality of GM vehicles and I also believe that it played a role in their bankruptcy(Ford Didn’t file) I have owned(and currently own)several Low mileage(around 50K)Gm vehicles and judging by many of the message boards they all seem to have a LOT of the same problems Example: ALL Grand prix 97-03 window regulators…Just ask an owner. High labor costs may have played a role in cutting corners on quality but it is also hard to compete with the labor costs from a third world country(Thanks Clinton!).
If people quit letting their ego’s get in the way of making a decision GM would have probably went out years ago. Any way, The truth hurts, put on your big girl panties and go on!
Comment by Steve — August 20, 2010 @ 5:00 pm
“guys… bottom line… any educated person would take an asian or european car over a crap american.”
I am a Geotechnical Engineer with a Civil Engineering background. I consider my self “educated”… I just bought a 2010 Silverado. I dont care what other people think of GM and I also dont care what other people drive. I have never had a problem with GM but maybe thats because I do all of my own scheduled maintenance (such as oil changed every 5000km). I also never had any problems with Asian cars.
Comment by Jason — September 27, 2010 @ 12:08 am
It’s true, most GM cars and American cars in general suck. I know this from my own experience and from the experience of family and friends who have bought these things; repairs constantly. I know there are exceptions to this, but in general GM/American aren’t as dependable. Way before 100k you start to get all these mysterious noises and rattles with GM. My wife’s Saturn Vue (GM product) doesn’t even have 100k yet and it makes all kinds of noises. The chassis sounds like a weak piece of junk; it pops creaks when we turn to sharp. And we do keep it maintained so that excuse doesn’t work. I want to buy American cars but I just can’t do it anymore.
Comment by Wes — October 4, 2010 @ 11:28 am
GM is a joke! My co-worker bought a 2008 escalade with 19,000 km. He was so excited that on our lunch break he wanted to take us for a ride in it and buy us lunch on him. It’s such a beautiful vehicle that I told him I want one!! Even thou I’m not a fan of American vehicles. Anyways after eating and driving back to the office the fuel gauge stopped working. I felt bad for the guy, because he was so embarrassed. Just recently one of the headlights stopped working. Cadillacs are nice but at the end of the day it’s still a GM piece of crap!
Comment by USA NOT OK! — October 17, 2010 @ 1:02 pm
My 2006 buick with 75,000 miles now needs a new transmission, and I am quite cetrtain that is was bad from day one, as I read a service bullitin, looks like all front wheel drive GM vehicles mini vans included will have transmission problems, 2001 tru to 2007. So tell me after paying 34,000 dollars for a fucking car do you think it is right to have to replace the transmission on a 4 year old car, and gess what warranty is expered. This company has lost me for the rest of my life.
Comment by Dale — November 4, 2010 @ 3:58 am
If You don’t beleive me about the bullitin here is the site you can check it out for yourself. http://www.autozmag.com/chevrolet/2007-chevrolet-impala-4t65e-transmission-1-2-shift-
Comment by Dale — November 4, 2010 @ 4:10 am
You guys can say what you want, But I don’t see Honda having a real truck. Thats something that those ricers cant touch. American trucks are not crap.
My Nieghbors 98 F-150 has over 335K (His 01 daily driver F150 has over 225K),
Aunts dads 00′ 7.3 powerstroke F350 dually has 300K,
Uncles Ford Windstar has 265K, Only thing big that has been replaced has been replaced is a transmission.
My Buddys 94 Chevy has over
242K.
Another Buddys 89 GMC has over 978K. Sure its had engines, trannys and rear ends. But the truck is still together with very little money.
I’m not saying Honda’s are junk. But They cant make trucks worth shit, Thats a fact. You guys are just full out hating because of one thing. I don’t think you guys should be so close minded.
Comment by Dan — November 9, 2010 @ 11:56 pm
Fuck all Japanese shrimp dick cars. They are the chinkiest eye sores on the fuckin road. GM has the camaro. Honda has the pussy s2000. Move to Japan if you love dink mobiles so much!
Comment by Dan — November 15, 2010 @ 11:22 pm
Wake up all you detroit union guys the party is over, GM hasn’t built anything worth anything since the 60′ ding dong the wicked witch is dead
Comment by Robert — November 18, 2010 @ 5:30 pm
Owned four General Motors built vehicles over my life time. Each subsequent one was worse than the previous inferior piece of trash. On the other hand, the Toyota trucks and cars (owned nine of them since 1988) with their fine fit along with high quality have been totally reliable and nearly indestructible. Unlike the shoddy GM cars and trucks that were always breaking down and failing apart, the Toyota vehicles have been trouble free and dependable.
Developed such a fondness for Toyota,that we’ve just swapped off an excellent condition old Mercedes Benz diesel sedan for a minty 1994 Toyota Land Cruiser. All things being equal, I prefer a Toyota over a Mercedes because it’s a superior vehicle. That Land Cruiser along with my 1994 Hilux Toyota truck share the garage with the wife’s Suburu. As it stands, I wouldn’t take a General Motors product if they offered it for free. Whenever I see somebody on the road driving a late model GM vehicle, it’s figured that the guy ain’t too smart and usually drives like an idiot too. Maybe they need a new slogan . . .something like, “Lousy Quality and Unreliable cars go together like stupidity and Chevrolet. By the way . . . did I mention that General Motors sucks?
seen riding in something like a Chevy.
Comment by Capt Quahog — December 3, 2010 @ 1:33 pm
I see everyone talking about good experiences with GM products. I have owned GM products most of my life and I am 62. Never really had a major problem to speak of. However I bought a 2010 silverado with a 350 engine and a few days ago I had a bad ticking noise in the engine. I took it to the dealer and they told me it had a bad camshaft. They also had four others in their shop with the same problem and had already repaired several others. I contacted GM and told them wanted another motor and did not pay $26,000 for a truck with a rebuilt motor. Their response was that they would repair it and it would be as good as new. I don’t want it as good as new, I want it new. I wonder how you GM lovers would feel if GM was rebuilding your motor in a new truck that has less than 30,000 miles on it. GM’s response sucks. Time to try a Ford.
Comment by Baker, R — December 19, 2010 @ 11:55 pm
I agree that GM vehicles suck. Let me give an example on how GM lacks on quality in order to save money and make fuel efficiency requirements. You will find on many GM vehicles these cheap PLASTIC window guide clips for power windows. A pair of clips for one window can be bought for under $10. However, with the cost of installation. That price goes way up simply because the morons at GM do not have the foresight to put metal clips in there. That might have added $10 to the total cost of the car, would not have increased the car weight dramatically (less than a pound) and greatly improved the quality of the car to GM’s customers. I grade GM with a D- on a F – A scale.
Comment by Robert — December 29, 2010 @ 10:08 am
Have any of you considered that GM is just evil greedy genius? I have worked in a tool and die shop that made prototype dies for parts for gm vehicles. We build a prototype then they send it to china to be rebuilt into a production die, then set up for mass production. Meanwhile a prototype die is nowhere near durable enough for production so it wears out and accounts for poorly fitted components. Then it’s reverse engineered and re built and put back into production. But it’s slightly different from the original, so that accounts for the inconsistency of gm components. Honest quality control in china? should I mention melamine baby formula and leaded jewellery? So this makes it very cheap for them because north american workers aren’t cheap in comparison to chinese workers, nor are engineers and so on. Then you have a bunch of guys who have an overwhelming sense of entitlement andunionized cushyness ( ability to get paid well to do as little as possible) putting it all together what do you get? Something that breaks down all the time. Why is this a “good” thing you ask? Well someone has to get paid to warehouse, stock, inventory, deliver, ship, diagnose, install blablabla the part that failed. So how many jobs has that created? lots! Bad for the consumer, but great for gm. I currently work at a gm dealer and I can tell you from what i see from day to day, We have a constant flow of cars and trucks new and old with huge problems every day. So gm makes lots of money from every end of it, from the the new car show room to parts sales to service costs. They build cheap and sell high and sell lots. They get their cake and eat it too. But they got greedy… really greedy and they went too far. People have caught on. Every day I feel so bad for people who come into the dealership. Something I hear every day that I would like to share ” but it’s not even a year old, how could it have such big problems”. Now the japanese makers are smart, they don’t rely on constant service costs, they go for the long haul. They figure if the customer is happy when the time comes… they will buy again. Not false loyalty because thats what daddy drove, but because they were really satisfied. They do cost a bit more, but you always get what you pay for. An extra $2000you say?? My goodness… But you get metal parts instead of plastic ones that break all the time, you get things that fit well and don’t wear out prematurely, things that are made to .001″ tolerances rather than .020″. I could go on and on and on but I will fill you in on one thing, more than half of the mechanics at my gm dealer drive japanese or non gm vehicles… What does that tell you. That’s not to say they don’t love gm… of course they do! because every gm car means dinner on their family’s table. So in summation, I say gm is just plain cheap, greedy evil and almost genius. But they have been caught red handed and people are catching on.
Comment by think about it — January 28, 2011 @ 1:53 am
I love GM cars and trucks I DRIVE A 2002 Buick LaSabre. I have a 1989 GMC P/U and my wife drives a 1997 Saturn. All have had few issues. I believe in buying American. That said, GM is still making old Tech gas eaters. Their 6 speed trans behind a 4 cyl. is the best they have to offer for fuel economy. There is the hybrid, but both are still over priced losers.
w/nice interiors. I want to buy a new GM product and I cannot see spending 30-40 thousand dollars for 16-32 MPG. I am very sorry to see made in America mean Old Tech fuel economy with leather interior. I will wait until 2012 and see if their act will come together. Given the price of GAS I may have to change my ways, before GM changes theirs.
Comment by Larry Rice — March 7, 2011 @ 12:45 am
I don’t think that any american will ever have a problem like that, I m having this problem since 1997: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CTKobOM-UqI
Comment by Spartaco Puccia — April 9, 2011 @ 11:24 am
I’m guessing you retarded jap crap lovers are a bunch of American hating liberals. I own a ’97 Ford F-150 XLT and have had it since it was brand new. It has 137,000 miles on it and it runs perfectly. My 2 year old Fusion Hybrid gets somewhere near 40 MPG and is of much higher quality than any gay peice of jap crap. The Fusion completely puts that gay peice of crap prius to shame. Besides, who wants to drive a car with a name that sounds like penis.
Comment by Marcus Cook — May 1, 2011 @ 7:45 pm
GM DOES Suck by the way. BY A FORD. Gods gift to the auto industry.
Comment by Marcus Cook — May 1, 2011 @ 7:46 pm
I live in the UK, and the most abundant GM car brand here is Vauxhall (Opel in europe)and let me tell you they are SHIT! They never just suffer minor problems like say a wheel bearing goes or an injector dies, its always something like the oil pump dies (causing the pistons to weld themselves into the cylinders) or like my friends 1 year old, 5000 mile Corsa that snapped a timing chain, destroying the engine, another friends altenator went on fire destroying the front of the car (3 year old, 20,000 mile Astra)The red paint they use is shit cos when the car gets to about 8 yrs old it turns pink, Another common fault on corsa’s is the windscreen wiper motors are prone to getting full of water, shorting them out during the rain, when you need them most.
I drive a 12 year old 150,000 mile Nissan Primera (Infiniti G20 in the US)and its never missed a heartbeat, i laugh at people in their broken down 6 year old vauxhalls that look like they should be scrapped, HAHA you bought the wrong car fool. Anyway all you lot moaning about American haters, buy a Ford, they have a good reputation in the UK, (Ford Focus is excellent)
Comment by Shaun — May 31, 2011 @ 10:02 am
Oh and try not to get upset all you die hard american car lovers, cos im not trying to be insulting, im just saying… in the UK and Europe American cars have a reputation for being badly built, too big, too thirsty, underpowered, badly handling piles of junk. Someone once said America has a disposable, throw away society and this is reflected in you’re cars. I suppose you’re cars are pretty cheap though, the average small car over here is around £10,000 ($16,500 at time of writing)
Comment by Shaun — May 31, 2011 @ 10:20 am
jap cars sound like shit they are gay cars. If you want to own one get the hell out of this country this is usa american cars only bmw can eat shit. most new cars look terrible to nothing is better then the american classics. look cool sound cool and can get out of there own way. american muscle is the fastest cars in the world look at top fuel 4.4 sec 335 MPH lol suck on that you imports punks lol
Comment by robert — June 2, 2011 @ 9:25 am
Wow Robert, your writing is so eloquent.
Comment by RJ — June 2, 2011 @ 9:32 am
i think back to a time when i was 16. I was camping by a river with my family and friends. We have a 84 CP boatthat my dad use to race it was there and i remember hearing the most awsome sound and it was the jet boat being race. a thunder roar from a mile or so a way from a 468 big block supercharged 750 hp engine most of all a CHEVROLET!!!! Engine # 1
Comment by robert — June 3, 2011 @ 9:12 am
the best sound in the world
Comment by robert — June 5, 2011 @ 7:43 am
your japs cars and bmw anit got nothing on us chevy, you punks are muscle cars will smoke your bmw like you going backwards oa ya are motors sound mean as hell to better then yours.
Comment by robert — June 5, 2011 @ 7:52 am
My 11 year old Honda with over 190,000 miles on it, averages about 35mpg. What do you get? LOL!I bet you are one of those guys whining about the cost of gas!
Comment by Rob — June 5, 2011 @ 7:58 am
you drive a honda your a boy punk your not a man a boy lol
Comment by robert — June 7, 2011 @ 4:30 pm
I mostly see racism, blind devotion, and prejudice among majority of GM car loving loons. Not to mention borderline illiteracy. The thing that matters is quality and ultimately value for your money and GM cars suck.
Comment by Jonny — July 18, 2011 @ 10:22 am
johney take your fancy words and go stick them up your ass fag>
Comment by robert — July 23, 2011 @ 5:58 pm
I don’t care for American cars cause they always prove to be lemons. Big Three always promise this one is good and those old ones were junk, sorry about that friend. Pulled the door handle on a brand new Dodge Intrepid in 1992, which were branded as quality, aren’t they all! It drug and didn’t operate smoothly, got stuck. Never saw an interpid, neon, stratus or Sirrus that wasn’t smoking. Those cars didn’t stay on the road long. Rent a Dodge Magnum with a sharp burr on the inside handle. Rent a Pontiac GP with the same cheap handles. Out sourcing!
My mother loves Buicks. At 60k she starts talking about being scared to drive far cause it’s getting worn out. WTF? I got 180k on my Mazda and will consider it a dud if it doesn’t get to 220k. The Lesabre had all four window regulators go out before 80k. Tires never keep pressure. Wheels must have a leak as her other three Buicks did the sane thing. Two had alternators died at about 60k, the other at 80k, the radio at 90k. Transmission died in one at 40k.
Love people that defend GM and claim the reason their cars run like a top is their maintenance. If anything I baby the GMs more than my car. Love the fiction too that Japanese cars are pampered. You see people all the time that have never even washed their Honda and Toyotas but have 200k+ on them. Supposed to believe someone with a filthy car is constantly maintaining it? Meantime a shiny new GM is broke down. Rare is the 65000 dollar Tahoe with both brake lights working.
Fords always have electric and tranny problems.
I’d like to buy American but they are a joke. 100,000 is a major milestone. Sure the Trucks go further but they a rattle traps. Squeak, creek, pop, clank.
Comment by notdrinkingthekoolaide — August 21, 2011 @ 3:16 am
Another thing, the big three always change the names of cars. I’m not talking the risky attempt at trend bucking (Aztec, Montana, Silhouette, PT Loser, prowler, new T-Bird) but ones that didn’t go over well and were Major mainstream cars in the line-up that the public turned on due to everyone telling them they are Lemons. Caviler, Cobalt, Escort, Mystic, Alero, Aspire, Contour, Stratus, Neon, Cirrus, Sebring, Interpid, LHS! They magically become Focus or Cruze or Nitro till time to change the names again.
What’s with all the defunct names? Simple, when your friend, co-worker or brother-in Law tell you what a POS that car was you’ll say oh well that was a Whatever and this is a Chevy Equinox. Yeah, isn’t that the small thing that takes 85 foot to turn? More than a Tahoe XL! TAlk about poor engineering. When they think you forgot they role em out again. Fiesta, Taurus back again.
Meantime the Japanese make Civics, Accords, Corollas, Maximas and Camrys for decades. No need to change the names to fool people.
American cars are Trannys pretending to be Marylin Monroe. Seems they fool many who never notice the cheap plastics. Enjoy the cheap interiors and soon to be faded headlights. Chrysler is the worst. Their cars look 15 years old in two years due to old styling and faded headlights. Been the case since they went to plastic headlights. They must tell their supplier to make them super cheap. Same with their paint that fades.
Comment by notdrinkingthekoolaide — August 21, 2011 @ 3:51 am
Some of you Racist douchebags (like Dan, robert, Marcus Cook)are hating on Japanese cars and calling them “ricers” and “jap-crap”. You need to wake up.
NEWSFLASH: Since when is a Piece of Shit Chevy Cavalier any better than a Nissan Sentra?
WRONG- Sentra > Cavalier.
Even a 1993 Sentra is better than a 2001 Crapalier
Cavalier is the biggest piece of shit on earth and has a water bottle interior and a fucked up 2.2L OHV 4 cylinder.
Sentra destroys Cavalier in: build quality, gas mileage, reliability, etc.
Or we can say
Altima > Malibu or Grand am
2012 GT-R > Corvette
Maxima > Impala or grand prix
Dan, Marcus Cook, and robert are just fucking faggot ass dickheads.
Comment by Brent Costner — October 28, 2011 @ 8:03 pm
My retired neighbor told me that he bought a 2011 Chevy Impala LTZ for 32k cash. I think that he was waiting for me to ooh and aah over his financial “coup.” I have yet to see a single GM vehicle worth that much, so I had to fake my glee for him. My personal problems with GM vehicles make me only laugh when I see boneheads spend that kind of money on a car, especially for a cheap GM car.
Comment by johnny wadd — October 28, 2011 @ 8:35 pm