I was in my car (A 2000 Honda Civic) at lunch listening to the radio. The talk show host was asking what is wrong with GM, and what can be done to improve their situation. He’s talking about unions, and healthcare costs, and all kinds of things. Never once did he mention the poor quality of the car. He talked about the employee discount sale, and happy customers, etc. He mentioned he bought a GM car. Fine. GM cars work great when you buy them new. What about 10 years down the road? They don’t last! It is one thing for the talk show host who probably buys a new car (probably at a discount because he promotes them), and trades it in every couple years for a new one. But for me and people like me who buy a car and expect it to last for years, GM cars are horrible! My last Honda was a 1990 Accord. I bought it with about 40000 miles on it, and at about 235000 miles it fried it’s valves. (And the reason it fried it’s valves I am pretty sure traces back to another mechanic who didn’t replace my water pump when I had my timing belt replaced which caused my car to overheat when the water pump blew a month later) After my mechanic told me the engine was most likely toast and telling me what it would cost to replace the engine, I traded the car and $2000 to him for a 1992 Chevy Lumina with only 100000 miles on it. Over the one year I had it I put money into it fixing this or that, until after about a year, the thing blew a head gasket! And I maintain my cars with regular oil changes etc. My wife had a 1989 Pontiac Sunbird also with relativly low milage, and that thing also blew a head gasket. What happened to the 1990 Honda Accord? The mechanic dropped a used engine into it, and it went back out onto the road. I donated the pieces of crap Lumina and Sunbird to a charity via the local junkyard! We ended up buying a couple 2000 Honda Civics which we plan to own for a bunch of years. My mechanic told me that the newer Hondas (like mine), have engines that will last for about a half million miles. He also told me that Honda’s from the era of my 1990 Accord had engines that didn’t last a long time. I’ll take 235000 miles. Thats way more than I have gotten from an American car! Honda cars last, GM cars don’t!

I agree!!! At 100k a GM car or truck is ready for a major breakdown. At 100k a Honda is ready for another 100k. GM needs to wake up and take a look in the mirror and fix things or it will be only talked about in history books.
Comment by Lewis Gossett — December 4, 2005 @ 5:44 pm
By the way, I own a late model GM truck and SUV. I have formed my opinion from ownership.
Comment by Lewis Gossett — December 4, 2005 @ 5:49 pm
My Sunbird is 15 yrs old (1991), over 425000 kms, and still going strong. I’ve seen jap cars break down much earlier. As long as i’m concerned, GM cars DO last !! some folks just don’t know how to take care of them.
Comment by GM is good. — January 6, 2006 @ 12:06 am
oh and by the way, whoever sez GM cars don’t last has been “brain-washed” by jap propeganda ! go buy some miniature plastic pets and stuffed bears and put them in your import..as far as i’m concerned. YOU SUK !!
Comment by GM is good. — January 6, 2006 @ 12:09 am
I cant beleive how people take responsibility for their pampered jap cars breaking down but when its american its a different story. Fact jap cars are built out of fly paper.Fact jap styling is bland.Fact a 2002 SS Camaro is an icon that will be worth more in the future than anything that the japs have to offer .Fact american trucks are built better then japs & get similar mpg.Fact the Fast & The Furious should be called the Slow & The Stupid !!!!
Comment by Mike Calvitto — January 10, 2006 @ 8:57 pm
i have owned gm cars and trucks for 12 years and also worked on them for a livining. the one thing i have learned is that almost ANY car that is not well maintaned will not last.buying a used car is risky because you DO NOT know the care it has been given,so two used cars of bad luck dosent mean anything
Comment by devin grider — January 17, 2006 @ 10:01 pm
I have had a cavilier but the braking on it sucked….it took a long time for it to brake compared to my new honda…
also the gm cars are more clunky going down the road… i had a 91 mazda and the handling on it was excellent…
Comment by honda owner — January 24, 2006 @ 8:06 am
I don’t buy american cars because I think they’re made in large part by dumb “good ol’ boys”. My brother bought a Ford Ranger. When he showed it off to me, it had a flashlight laying in the engine, and a beercan inside the door (behind the trim). He was embarrassed.
I use to install computers at american car dealerships, and frankly the mechanics scare me. I would not take a bicycle to them to fix. I’ve owned 7 Honda’s in my lifetime and the mechanics were all very professional.
Finally, I think detroits problem is with the union. The union is driving out all the jobs in our country. They’ve been slowly moving to Mexico already and Pretty soon the Japanese will be the only remaining builders of cars in the United States. I use to feel a little guilty about buying Japanese cars, but not since they’ve started employing american workers.
Comment by Trekker4Life — January 26, 2006 @ 2:24 pm
Let’s be fair here. Even though I have a Honda Accord it’s not fair to say GM cars suck. That 1970 Camaro is a good running car!!! LOL!!!!!
Comment by el-dog — March 26, 2006 @ 7:45 am
Gm models cars only suck to those who are incapable of maintaining such a car. I have two Cadillac Eldorado Biarritz’s in pristine condition and factory original
and I get loads of compliments
That’s why Hondas have the highest theft rate is because cars like that are expendable and will never see the likes of classic status. Damn gear heads
Comment by Billy Allen — April 17, 2006 @ 9:09 am
why do pepole talk crap about G.M. i have worked on every thing you can name. the chepest thing i have ever fixed is always the G.M. cars and trucks.The only thing i will ever drive is a G.M truck or car.that is because i always work on my own G.M car and my 2 G.M trucks.you try working on forin job they are hard to work on and expensive!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! tust me
Comment by frank bunning — June 2, 2006 @ 9:47 pm
G.M. cars don’t last.The knuckle dragers that put them together are smart like cavemen.Toyota rules.Chrysler is worse.They use prostitutes to keep the workers happy.Crack,too!!
Comment by Joey Sap — June 1, 2009 @ 9:02 pm
Why again??????
Comment by Bill Callahan — June 18, 2009 @ 3:47 am
Something just has to be said about the following quote from “honda owner”:
“I don’t buy american cars because I think they’re made in large part by dumb “good ol’ boys”. My brother bought a Ford Ranger. When he showed it off to me, it had a flashlight laying in the engine, and a beercan inside the door (behind the trim). He was embarrassed.”
This is perhaps the stupidest, most un-thought-out statement I have ever heard! You, Honda Owner, are a stupid dumbass. Your statement sounds like it was fabricated by a 12-year old who just got high for the first time. I seriously cannot believe that you are capable of operating a computer, let alone a motor vehicle. Frankly, I think ha just made this crap up!
American autoworkers are some of the hardest working people on the planet, moron. They aren’t just good ole boys, as you say. We come from all backgrounds and all walks of life. Just because we’re from the Midwest and not from New York or California, or whatever yuppie/liberal city you come from doesn’t make you ANY BETTER THAN US! Do you understand that concept, genius? We are people just like you, go to work in the morning like you, have families and houses just like you… However, unlike you, we are proud of our country and the goods that we produce.
I am 26 years old and have owned or still own a 1968 Pontiac Lemans, 1993 Mercury Tracer LTS, 1994 Plymouth Acclaim, 1996 Ford Explorer, 1997 Ford Taurus, 1999 Olds Alero and a 2004 Pontiac GTO and have had minimal problems with all of them. In fact, my 1996 Explorer with 163,000 miles is still on the original transmission and, *gasp*, the original engine. How many radiators, timing belts and water pumps would a Civic go through by that point? My 99 Olds Alero had 150K when I sold it. My 04 GTO’ll stomp whatever Honda challenges it and still gets 25 mpg AND is an absolute pleasure to drive.
The next time you have a weekend off, why don’t you take a trip to Flint, Detroit, Cleveland or Lansing and see just what kind of people actually build American cars. Try talking to a few of them. Maybe then you’ll understand exactly why people like me dislike Jap cars, people who preach about how great Jap cars are, and most important, people who bitch about how terrible our country and our products are.
Don’t make me lay into the V6 Accords, Acuras and Odysseys with their catastrophic 20k transmission failures, rotten out radiators and EGR issues. Or how about your precious Civics terrible build quality, defective exhaust work and cooling system problems. How about the rust-prone Mitsubishi EVO with its premature engine failures?
Seriously… all of you out there that had a 1983 Chevy Citation or 86 Dodge Aries and therefore think that all Domestics are junk need to re-evaluate your situation and take a new Ford Fusion Sport or Pontiac G8 for a test drive and see that the field had leveled off. In the meantime, try to refrain from making remarks as ignorant and as stupid as the one this jackass made! American born, American built, American bought: The way it should be.
Comment by 6spdGTO — June 26, 2009 @ 9:17 am
“In fact, my 1996 Explorer with 163,000 miles is still on the original transmission and, *gasp*, the original engine. How many radiators, timing belts and water pumps would a Civic go through by that point? My 99 Olds Alero had 150K when I sold it. My 04 GTO’ll stomp whatever Honda challenges it and still gets 25 mpg AND is an absolute pleasure to drive. ”
My 2000 Civic has 154k on it. Still original engine, radiator, tranny, etc. I had the timing belt/water pump replaced at 90k as scheduled service. It would probably still be running fine though. I have been told that even if the timing belt failed on my Honda, the engine wouldn’t be damaged.
Any Honda that challenges it? Hmmm….Okay, how about this challenge. Best gas mileage. My best recorded tanks have been around 45mpg. Can you even come close?
And I have no plans to stop driving my Civic. I plan to drive it 400k+ if I can. I have been told these new Honda’s will get about 500k on the engines.
Comment by Rob — June 29, 2009 @ 4:29 pm
My 2002 honda civic has 160000 miles, ask me why so many miles because my husbands 2002 dodge ram is such a gas guzzler my car is the one being used all the time. His truck has 60,000 miles and has required at least twice a year major repairs add couple thousand a year to cost of owning the dodge. Where nothing on my civic except cost of regular maintence and just recently new brake pads. ilove my honda and he can’t wait to trade the piece of crap dodge in on another Honda.
Comment by angela apt — August 1, 2009 @ 1:19 am
Check the price of Civics vs Cavaliers(or whatever they are calling them now), Accords vs Malibus, etc. You will see which car holds value, and I can wager why that is. I have owned all domestic vehicles since I was 16(too cheap to buy foreign, paid for it 3x over in repairs). Olds, Ford, and worst of all, GM. All had regular maitainence.
Comment by Keith H — September 26, 2009 @ 12:16 pm
GM does suck. If people read consumer reports they have been bad for over 20 years. I had a 1988 Trans-Am that broke down constantly. I take my car in for service and oil changes regularly. I now own a BMW and never have problems. GM The company that built the x-cars, Corvair and Fiero. All Genuine GM JUNK!! Worse of all the company knew the cars were defective and still built them. Very Smart America! Wait and see GM go under in a few years. Its their own fault. Look in the mirror US auto makers you do not stack up.
Comment by David B. — October 25, 2009 @ 9:41 am
GM THE LEMONMAKER ! IVE BEEN NOTICING THE GM TACTIC…. POSTS APPEAR AS A MECHANIC STATING THAT GM HAS LESS ISSUES THAN ANYOTHER AUTOMAKER & HES WORKED HERE & THERE & WE SHOULD BE PATRIOTIC….. GM YOUR THIEVING & YOUR DEXCOOL CLASSACTION THAT YOU DONT HONOR IS A PATHETIC EXAMPLE OF ANY BUSINESS ! GM JUST GO AWAY ! IM TIRED OF SEEING HARDWORKING PEOPLE GET RIPPED OFF !
Comment by GM GROWS LEMONS — December 10, 2009 @ 7:03 am
HEY MR.WAGONEER YOU STEPPED DOWN & LEFT A DIRTY LEGACY OF MILLIONS UPON MILLIONS OF PEOPLE THAT TRUSTED THE COMPANY YOU RAN… HOW DID YOU DO QUALITY CONTROL? LIKE THE VEGA ? RELIABLE REPORTS SAY IT FELL APART AT MILE 8… OR WAS IT THE CORVAIR ? THAT WAS THE BEGINING OF THE CRAP THAT I SAW AS A KID. I KNEW BETTER THEN. I NEVER BOUGHT 1 OF YOUR LEMONS, THOUGH OTHERS TOUTED HOW THEY WERE tAsTee, MY TASTE WAS A LITTLE{ALOT} DIFFERENT. I DIDNT WANT TO EAT 1 GET SICK & HAVE IT COST ME $$$$ . BUT YOU ACCOMPLISHED MUCH… YOU FOOLED AMERICA & APPARENTLY ARE STILL AT YOUR OLD TRICKS WITH YOUR LEMON COMMERCIALS WITH POPULAR FRIENDLY LOOKING FACES…LOOKS TO ME THAT GM RELIES ON 1 THING. THEIRS A SUCKER BORN EVERYDAY OR A FOOL AND HIS /HER MONEY ARE SOON PARTED. YOU DEFINETLY GROW GREAT LEMONS & I NOTICED FROM YOUR OWN WEBSITE THAT YOU HAVE BEEN GROWING THEM IN MEXICO SINCE 1935. I LIKE THAT LITTLE TOUCH ON YOUR PLACARDS ! ENGINEERED IN THE U.S.A.” aSsEmBlEd iN mExIco. Wow ! SEE DEXCOOL CLASSACTION SUIT & THEN DECIDE IF YOU DESERVE THE TROUBLES THAT MILLIONS UPON MILLIONS ARE HAVING. GM YOU ARE TRULY THE GREATEST LEMON GROWER EVER.
Comment by GM GROWS LEMONS — December 10, 2009 @ 7:24 am
DOUBTS ABOUT GM ? GOOGLE GM RECALLS & SPEND A MOMENT OR HOURS…. LOOKING AT A MASSIVE RECALL LIST COVERING MODEL, I MEAN LEMON AFTER LEMON. GM IS VERY DIFFERENT THAN AN EVERYDAY LEMONMAKER. THEY MAKE THE BEST LEMONS !
Comment by GM GROWS LEMONS — December 10, 2009 @ 7:32 am
Some of you on here want to talk about how great gm is, well explain to me about the 2003 grand am gt. This thing is a pile of junk. The clips that hold the windows and move them up and down break constantly, cheap plastic crap, I could make something better in my garage. The radio is a pile of crap, the air conditioning selector switch broke off, the valve cover gasket leakes oil. Just poor quality all around. I have nothing against American cars and nothing against the unions that put them together, its not the peoples fault, its the cheap shitty products that they are given to install on these cars. This partical Grand Am just turned 70,000 miles, absolutely ridiculous having these problems with that little miles on it. JUNK.
Comment by Derek — December 27, 2009 @ 12:24 pm
The Recession has exposed and undone these mega corporations. The episode of GM cars is the underbelly.
Comment by Xscad — January 2, 2010 @ 8:48 am
My 2003 GM Safari is a basket case with 61,000 miles on it. ALL brakes calipers. rotors, pads have been replaced TWICE, (1500.00+) brake line replaced (1) 400.00+ Gas tank expansion valve gone, 495.00, door handles on rear broken, and more. What a piece of crap. This is why GM SHOULD go out of business. They pay their workers more than enough to maqke crap, and expect people to keep buying this s*&^%? NVEVER again, I’l buy a Toyota again like I should have. I have a Tacoma with 133,000 on it and its good for another 100,000. America needs to dump this company quick.
Comment by phil dimor — January 6, 2010 @ 7:08 pm
Finally bought a Toyota Camry! I was a believer in G.M. all my life (I am 54). They used to make good products, but the last 2 brand new cars that I had of theirs were total garbage. We take excellent care of our cars and both the Cutlass and Cutlass Ciera that I owned crapped out before they had 60,000 miles on them. Also, I have a $2,000.00 rebate on a new G.M. car and I bought the Camry instead. Until they clean up their act (maybe it is too late even), I will not buy their products.
Comment by Jane — January 20, 2010 @ 2:32 pm
GM does suck. I have a 2003 impala that was the first american car i’ve had and i bought new. They just aren’t built to last without high maintenance costs. I had a key ignition issue last month – $600 bucks. This month – intake manifold issue – $700 bucks. When i explained it to mechanic, he was like, “oh yeah I know what it is, we replace alot of those on chevys and cadillacs.” I was thinking about getting a cadillac as next car, but they can forget it! Only way would be if it was with a lifetime warranty!
Comment by Jay — January 20, 2010 @ 9:33 pm
I have a 2002 Saturn SL1. Granted it’s probably the worst make of GM ever, but this is the reason why I will buy only Japanese and European cars (when I can afford them) from now on.
It only has 76,000 miles and already has major engine troubles. I kind of had it coming when I saw that the redline is 5,500 RPM compared to everyone else (6,000-6,500 RPM at least).
Comment by David — March 9, 2010 @ 10:02 pm
Bill Callahan shut up!!! no one cares how STUPID you are and your “JUNK” GM car collection. IF you would follow what everyone’s saying, we’re talking about how GM is screwing everyone for years. I’m not wanting to bail out anyone who fucks me over. GM keep your shit and sell it to dumb shits like Bill Callahan. I’ll keep my one reliable honda and Callahan you can have 20 GMs to keep your dumb ass going
Comment by Kay — April 26, 2010 @ 12:03 am
DEREK, all the things u listed as sucking minus the valve cover gasket, were probably made in japan. did u ever consider that? maybe gm would be better if they would stop buying there shit and making agreements with foreign car companies.
Comment by perry — July 18, 2010 @ 2:20 pm